Posts by Bungi Bill

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Before knowing TTATT did you really believe in things as...

by roberto avon in

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did you really believe in things as ;- the earth is only 6000 years old- the 144.000- 1914, based upon the destructiono of jerusalem- harmagheddon or the end of the world coming soon???

?i married a jw when i was an interested person and studying with the jw's ( not the way they wanted) but i told my wife before marrying her that " most probably " i would never have been a jw.she accepted me as i was and married me.

after that i had interrupted the study for one year, i started all over again with an elder of my wife's cong.

Bungi Bill

I regret to have to report that yes, there was a time when I believed all those things you just mentioned. Later on, it became a case of :

(i) wanting to still believe it was all true,

(ii) then desperately wanting to still believe that this was the truth.

(iii) and finally the realisation that I was just trying harder and harder to defend something that was indefensible!

Bill.

PS: Not in any way proud of all this. Like Cofty, though, I could never have remained with the JWs (or any religious group, for that matter) if I didn't believe their teachings.

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Why are we so hard on JW's??

by James Mixon in

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i was thinking about this last night.

what would happen if.

someone new check out this site, what would they think?.

Bungi Bill

Many JWs are........lacking in intelligence.

I have known some JWs who had an IQ level so high that it was shared by only a few per cent of the population in general. One even had an IQ level clean off the end of the scale (which is 200).

However, they all shared one characteristic in common with just about everybody else in that religion:

- it was as if they were all equipped with a Bypass Switch to their brain, and whenever the matter of religion came up, this switch was immediately turned over to the "Bypass" position!

It has still got me puzzled how otherwise highly intelligent people can allow themselves to continue to be misled by such a lot of nonsense.

Bill

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The "preaching work" is just laughable!

by cookiemaster in

the "preaching work" they're so eager to brag about is just laughable.

they say their number is an indication of god's blessing.

oh, please, give me a break!

Bungi Bill

stand in the subway station like a statue holding up the magazines.

Yes, it is hardly disaster response, is it?

Of course, if this world is not really in imminent danger of destruction after all, then it hardly matters!

Bill.

26

What did you become after leaving Jehovah's Witnesses?

by Garrett in

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hey guys,.

so, since my leaving i have been doing so much research on so many topics that it's been extremely enlightening.

not only have i learned a lot about the organization and what motivates it, but i have also learned a lot about the bible, god and most importantly, myself.. currently, i'm not quite sure where i stand, but i'm having some real issues with the bible and god.

Bungi Bill

The term "religioned out " best describes my position since leaving that lot 20 years ago.

Bill

35

Do you feel bad throwing away literature?

by stuckinarut2 in

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so do you feel bad throwing away your old literature?.

what about your old song book or bible from your early days in the org?.

if so, is it because of sentimentality, monetary cost or because it might be 'sacred' ?.

Bungi Bill

Quite the contrary - it game me a feeling of great satisfaction to deal with the lot by using a box of matches and several litres of kerosene!

Bill

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You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

by cappytan in

check this out.

got this bound volume from my dad.. .

Bungi Bill

I remember that one very well:

-it is the main reason that I am just now (a week after my 60th birthday) completing studies towards an Advanced Diploma.

&$%# the lot of them and their damnfool ideas!

Bill

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how many of you are parents of adult children who still follow the wt and think you are misled?

by sowhatnow in

what have you done so far as to convince them they are misled?

what has worked for you.. it is inconceivable to me, that if my mother or father showed me proof of why the wt org is false, that i wouldn't take them seriously, after all they are older and should know better, but it seems there are some of you who have the opposite outcome, where your children think you are misled and senile, and grandparents are surely labeled as senile.

one would reason then, if this were truly the case, that you are 'senile' or demented, then wouldn't that be taken into consideration when having loving contact with your parents?

Bungi Bill

I suspect that my two daughters still regard me as misled - but not quite as misled as they once thought I was. The elder one never did adhere to the WTS's more extreme demands about shunning, while in more recent times, the younger of my two daughters has also shown herself to no longer be bound by such extremism. Both my wife and I still entertain hopes that the penny will finally drop!

Bill.

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How many JWs really believe the end will come "soon"?

by BU2B in

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this topic has been on my mind lately.

i have been looking around at jws and wondering how many truly believe the end is as near as they are told.

from my personal experience, i know that my parents fully believe the end is imminent and may come any time now.

Bungi Bill

There are those, perhaps the majority, who hang on to "The Truth" more as an insurance policy than anything else:

- just in case that Group of 7 Madmen in New York have got it right after all.

Otherwise, they plan for the long haul "In This System".

Certainly, my daughter and son in law (both in their mid-thirties) are talking retirement and pensions - whereas myself at the same age would have still subscribed to the idea "waste of time, that (elusive!) New System is going to be here before then."

Bill

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JW Children - We're normal, and have fun at conventions, etc.

by berrygerry in

was reading a poster's experience with custody, and the info in wts child custody packet.. children are prepped to present themselves as normal, with school friendships, hobbies, activities, etc.

and not to mention that their life-goal is to pioneer.. the school brochure (1983) contains this gem:.

"they [witness families] also travel several times each year to attend larger gatherings called circuit assemblies and district conventions.

Bungi Bill

My father was under strong pressure from his newly-converted JW mother to bring us kids up " In the Truth". Luckily for myself and my two sisters, he resisted that. JW children having a "normal" childhood? As much chance of that as the existence of Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and Unicorns!

Bill.

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Pope thinks hitting children is "Beautiful"

by cofty in

one time, i heard a father in a meeting with married couples say `i sometimes have to smack my children a bit, but never in the face so as to not humiliate them.how beautiful!

he knows the sense of dignity!

he has to punish them but does it justly and moves on.

Bungi Bill

After the beating, my parents would hug me and say they loved me.

Oh, yes - similar to the old lie " It is hurting me more than it is hurting you", said as he administers a flogging.

I regret to have to say that I am very familiar with that one!

Bill.